Comments on: Why Believe in Genesis – Part 1

By: Lucas

Lucas — Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:36:45 +0000

Too true, dude. What u describe is what IS true about evolution. There’s no proof evolution created all species (unless u count the proof that makes u think these so-called “scientists” r gonna say humans, bears, and rats r the same creature based on their similar skeletons).

By: loswl

loswl — Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:27:19 +0000

Hey Lucas, happy you enjoyed the article, that salamander thing made me laugh, as you said the salamanders are still salamanders at the end of the process, plus the process does not take millions of years. Small changes can happen within species, that is what occurs in dog breeding, you can breed different dogs to get Dash Hounds, Poodles, etc. but they are still dogs, Evolution is a very, very, very, very......Loooooooong process that does not occur. The Bible says that God created different kinds (species) and these kinds reproduce, one specie do not and cannot evolve into another specie. Evolution goes against every law of science. I just started posting a series of articles that shows how evolution is a lie here is the links to the first two:

Evolutionary Tales Exposed: Part 1 - The Origin of Life

Evolutionary Tales Exposed: Part 2 - Fossil Evidence

By: Lucas

Lucas — Sun, 26 Jun 2011 17:31:57 +0000

There’s a video going around on YouTube (can’t remember what it’s called) by this guy trying to basically disprove the entire Genesis creation story by disproving that animals are descended from the same animals (in other words, taking Genesis 1:24 to the extreme). He uses the example of salamanders on the north end of an island migrating south and ultimately separating. By the time they meet again at the south end, they r completely different colours and sizes, and can’t reproduce easily. I watched the entire vid, and basically heard this the entire time: “blah, blah, blah, salamanders, blah, blah, had become, blah, blah, blah, salamanders”. It’s the truth. The salamanders were still salamanders throughout the entire evolution. If any atheist wants me to believe we all came from evolution, then he can show me salamanders becoming crocodiles, snakes, or even as some evolutionists claim can happen, chickens.
Love the article. Very informative. God bless you.

By: Darlenn

Darlenn — Thu, 03 Mar 2011 19:50:27 +0000

In response to your last paragraph.

For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, his eternal power and divine nature have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made so that men are without excuse.

So as you can see based on Romans 1:20 God has revealed Himself to all mankind through His creation, so we are all without excuse. And God didn’t just reveal Himself to the Israelites, just look at the Egyptians in the days of Moses, are you telling me that God didn’t reveal Himself to them? God is eternal. He has no beginning and no end. So He was not created but has always been. That is why He told Moses that His name is “I am that I am”.

By: loswl

loswl — Tue, 07 Dec 2010 15:28:24 +0000

God was not created, He is Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. Genesis tells of the beginning of everything except God. He was there before Creation and He is in no way dependent on it. God has no need to have been created, since He exists outside of time (where cause and effect do not operate) or within multiple dimensions of time (such that there is no beginning of God’s plane of time). Hence God is eternal, having never been created (Alpha). Man and everything we know exist within the constraint of time, we are mortal…God is immortal (Omega).

By: Himangsu Sekhar Pal

Himangsu Sekhar Pal — Tue, 07 Dec 2010 14:14:03 +0000

WHO CREATED GOD?
Earlier it was impossible for us to give any satisfactory answer to this question. But modern science, rather we should say that Einstein, has made it an easy task for us. And Stephen Hawking has provided us with the clue necessary for solving this riddle. Actually scientists in their infinite wisdom have already kept the ground well-prepared for us believers so that one day we can give a most plausible and logically sound answer to this age-old question. Let us first see how Hawking has helped us by providing the necessary clue. In his book “A Brief History of Time” (Chapter: The origin and fate of the universe) he informs us that there are 1080 particles in the region of the observable universe. Then he raised the question regarding the origin of these particles, and gave the answer himself. According to quantum theory particles can be created out of energy in the form of particle/antiparticle pairs. But there the question does not stop. Another question props up regarding the origin of that energy. But when it is said that total energy of the universe is exactly zero, then all is said and done. So this is the clue: if we can somehow arrive at zero, then no further question will be raised, and there will be no infinite regression. What I intend to do here is something similar to that. I want to show that our God is a bunch of several zeroes, and that therefore no further question need be raised about His origin. And here comes Einstein with his special theory of relativity for giving us the necessary empirical support to our project.
God is a Being. Therefore God will have existence as well as essence. So I will have to show that both from the point of view of existence as well as from the point of view of essence God is zero. It is almost a common saying that God is spaceless, timeless, changeless, immortal, and all-pervading. Here we are getting three zeroes; space is zero, time is zero, change is zero. But how to prove that if there is a God, then that God will be spaceless, timeless, and changeless? From special theory of relativity we come to know that for light both distance and time become unreal. For light even an infinite distance is infinitely contracted to zero. The volume of an infinite universe full of light only will be simply zero due to this property of light. A universe with zero volume is a spaceless universe. Again at the speed of light time totally stops. So a universe full of light only is a spaceless, timeless universe. But these are the properties of light only! How do we come to know that God is also having the same properties of light so that God can also be spaceless, timeless? Scientists have shown that if there is a God, then that God can only be light, and nothing else, and that therefore He will have all the properties of light. Here is the proof.
Scientists have shown that total energy of the universe is always zero. If total energy is zero, then total mass will also be zero due to energy-mass equivalence. Now if there is a God, then scientists have calculated the total energy and mass of the universe by taking that God into consideration. In other words, if there is a God, then this total energy-mass calculation by the scientists is God-inclusive, not God-exclusive. This is due to two reasons. First of all, even if there is a God, they are not aware of the fact that there is a God. Secondly, they do not believe that there is a God. So, if there is a God, then they have not been able to keep that God aside before making this calculation, because they do not know that there is a God. They cannot say that they have kept Him aside and then made this calculation, because by saying so they will admit that there is a God. They cannot say that the behind-the-picture God has always remained behind the picture, and that He has in no way come into the picture when they have made this calculation, because by saying so they will again admit that there is a God. At most they can say that there is no God. But we are not going to accept that statement as the final verdict on God-issue, because we are disputing that statement. So the matter of the fact is this: if God is really there, then total mass and total energy of the universe including that God are both zero. Therefore mass and energy of God will also be zero. God is without any mass, without any energy. And Einstein has already shown that anything having zero rest-mass will have the speed of light. In other words, it will be some sort of light. So, if God is there, then God will also be light, and therefore He will be spaceless, timeless. So from the point of view of existence God is zero, because he is spaceless, timeless, without any mass, without any energy.
Now we will have to show that from the point of view of essence also God is zero. If there is only one being in the universe, and if there is no second being other than that being, then that being cannot have any such property as love, hate, cruelty, compassion, benevolence, etc. Let us say that God is cruel. Now to whom can He be cruel if there is no other being other than God Himself? So, if God is cruel, then is He cruel to Himself? Therefore if we say that God is all-loving, merciful, benevolent, etc., then we are also admitting that God is not alone, that there is another being co-eternal with God to whom He can show His love, benevolence, goodness, mercy, compassion, etc. If we say that God is all-loving, then we are also saying that this “all” is co-eternal with God. Thus we are admitting that God has not created the universe at all, and that therefore we need not have to revere Him, for the simple reason that He is not our creator!
It is usually said that God is good. But Bertrand Russell has shown that God cannot be good for the simple reason that if God is good, then there is a standard of goodness which is independent of God’s will. (Book: A History of Western Philosophy, Ch: Plato’s Utopia). Therefore, if God is the ultimate Being, then that God cannot be good. But neither can He be evil. God is beyond good and evil. Like Hindu’s Brahma, a real God can only be nirguna, nirupadhik; without any name, without any quality. From the point of view of essence also, a real God is a zero. Mystics usually say that their God is a no-thing. This is the real God, not the God of the scriptures.
So, why should there be any need of creation here, if God is existentially, as well as essentially, zero?
But if there is someone who is intelligent and clever enough, then he will not stop raising question here. He will point out to another infinite regression. If God is light, then He will no doubt be spaceless, timeless, etc. Therefore one infinite regression is thus stopped. But what about the second regression? How, and from whom, does light get its own peculiar properties by means of which we have successfully stopped the first regression? So, here is another infinite regression. But we need not have to worry much about this regression, because this problem has already been solved. A whole thing, by virtue of its being the whole thing, will have all the properties of spacelessness, timelessness, changelessness, deathlessness. It need not have to depend on any other external source for getting these properties. Thus no further infinite regression will be there.

By: loswl

loswl — Thu, 06 May 2010 15:16:29 +0000

Hey Jared, thanks for checking out the post, answersingenesis.com is a website I use all the time for research, they really do a great job of breaking out the truth contained in the Bible and how it relates to Creation, the truth of God seems like foolishness to the unbeliever but we must continue to share the Gospel

By: Jared

Jared — Thu, 06 May 2010 15:00:24 +0000

By the way, excellent post and excellent responses. And @David, you’re totally right. We have to remember that God is the one that gives the convictions, we just share the word. We are only messengers and as long as we stand on the truth we know, we have nothing to worry about when the times comes for us to meet the Lord.

For the people that reject what has been said on here and in the Bible in general, don’t shoot the messenger. We’re only sharing what we believe to be truth and we pray that you will all follow the convictions God has given you. God will not ask us how many people we lead to Him, he will just ask how many we shared His love with. So it’s not for our benefit by any means, it’s a command to share with everyone we meet. God bless and I hope you all find the answers you are looking for.

By: Jared

Jared — Thu, 06 May 2010 14:51:08 +0000

No one has mentioned a site that I always refer to for questions pertaining to the creation account. It’s ran by Ken Ham, a renowned creation scientist as well as several other guys with PHD’s and what not. Many of them used to be scientists of geology, or whatever and have now taken that knowledge and can see how what they could not explain, can be explained through the Bible. Any of you with questions about what has been said here, there is probably an answer for it on this site and if not, they accept criticism and feedback and will answer your questions with honesty and show you how scripture backs the claims. Check it out and let me know what you think of it. Peace.

http://www.answersingenesis.org

By: Godserv

Godserv — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:59:52 +0000

@ REAlity

you said..

The council of Nicaea compiled the books of the bible via committee, removed the more glaringly contradictory books (I.E. one of the gnostic gospels basically contends that Jesus came from the east, and taught lessons basically from the Buddhist philosophy, which may have been probable, because the Buddhists had been sending, for lack of a better word, missionaries to the west during that time of history), and it’s widely known among biblical scholars that the first recorded book of the bible wasn’t written until fifty years after Jesus died.

“Interestingly, not one single Gnostic text, with the possible exception of the Gospel of Thomas (essentially sayings of Jesus) features in the centuries old controversies about books that were being used in public worship in the churches. To say then a book was left out of the canon when such a book never even came up for consideration is begging the question far too much.
Dan Brown’s fictional historian Leigh Teabing is out of his depths when he alleges that Constantine somehow tampered with the New Testament. Those who argue that King James did likewise are in the same unenviable position as Teabing. To change anything in a New Testament book or the Bible one would have to do the impossible.

To illustrate with the New Testament, that one would have to gather up from across the then known world, not just most of but every single one of, the tens of papyri, the hundreds of uncials (script in caps only), the thousands of miniscules (script in cursive) and lectionaries (selected passages for reading in worship services) as well as the thousands of quotations in the writings of the early Church Fathers in Greek, Latin and other languages, uniformly correct or destroy all of these and produce the doctored version for copying and distribution.

Sensible people in the modern world have to cultivate the discipline of not being fooled by nice sounding nonsense. Substance must be much more important than style.

The main concern of the Council of Nicaea in AD 325 was not the canon but the relationship of the Son to the Father in Eternity (following the controversy between Alexander bishop of Alexandria and one of his presbyters, Arius, in 318 or 319 over Alexander’s sermon “The Great Mystery of the Trinity in Unity”).” ~ Clinton Chisholm, The Da Vinci Code Tidbits<

By: Godserv

Godserv — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:57:49 +0000

David, glad you mention dirt – since man was made from dirt, I always look at the fact that almost all the elements and minerals found in dirt, can be found in the body.

The major ones are Oxygen (65%), Carbon (18.6%), Hydrogen (9.7%), Nitrogen (3.2%), Calcium (1.8%), Phosphorus (1.0%), Potassium (0.4%), Sodium (0.2%), Chlorine (0.2%), Magnesium (0.06%), Sulfur (0.04%), Iron (0.007%), Iodine (0.0002%).

There are many more elements in our bodies at various percentages, but these play the major roles. Look at Calcium, at 1.8%, if we have a deficiency of Calcium, our body are in real trouble, not to mention our little friend Oxygen God is great in all His ways. Since dirt was made by God, we can be assured that by using it to make man, it was a very, very wise decision. In the beginning God…, then dirt…, then man.

By: David

David — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:55:43 +0000

The fact is, you have a choice when it comes to choosing evolution or God. Either God created our world, or the big bang did. Something created everything we see and it is either:

In the beginning God…

In the beginning Dirt…

I’m no rocket scientist, but due to the evidence, it takes more faith to believe in dirt than it does in God.

The real problem isn’t that God is harder to believe than dirt. It’s the fact that, since there is a God, he makes the rules. And we don’t like his rules because we love our sin.